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Tencent shrugs off effect of US sanctions and says Chinese suppliers will fill GPU gap

Chinese web giant Tencent placed early, and large, orders for Nvidia GPUs, believes it procured enough of the hardware to evolve its AI for another two generations, and has plans to keep improving performance even if US chip bans put GPUs off limits for the foreseeable future.

So said the company’s president Martin Lau on Tencent’s Q3 earnings call this week.

“In terms of the chip situation right now we have one of the largest inventories of AI chips in China,” Lau told investors. “We were the first to put in an order for the H800” – a card Nvidia designed specifically to sit below the threshold of the USA’s tech export bans. Subsequent bans forbade future sales of the H800.

Tencent doesn’t much care.

“We have enough chips to continue development for at least a couple of generations” Lau said, referring to future evolution of Tencent’s “Hunyuan” proprietary large foundation model.

Investors were told Hunyuan is already summarizing meetings staged on Tencent’s Zoom-like Meeting platform, offering productivity-enhancing suggestions to Tencent’s coders, and improving the efficiency of art creation at its game studios.

The AI is also writing copy for advertisers on Tencent’s properties, targeting those ads more precisely, and improving click through rates. Performance at Tencent’s video ad business has improved as a result.

In the near future, Lau expects Hunyuan to write ads and respond to customer inquiries.

“A lot of merchants can combine advertising and sales process into one,” Lau enthused, adding that Tencent envisages a customer-facing AI – he used the term “smart agent” – that will see the Chinese giant’s AI take on an even broader role for its business customers.

That’s doable, he opined, without needing to buy more GPUs.

“The ban does not effect the development of Hunyuan and our AI capability,” Lau said.

Bans may slow Tencent a little, as Lau admitted “Going forward we have to figure out how to make usage of our AI chips more efficient.” He then mused: “Can we offload inference to lower performance chips, and preserve high performance chips for training?”

Tencent plans to look into it.

And when it does need more silicon for training, Lau said Tencent will look for a domestic supplier.

Which isn’t supposed to exist, as US sanctions are designed in part to stop China developing equivalents to the H800.

Tencent appears to believe China’s semiconductor industry will rise to the occasion.

Which leaves the USA’s policies looking a bit meek, as the readout of the meeting between presidents Biden and Xi included the following”

The President emphasized that the United States will continue to take necessary actions to prevent advanced U.S. technologies from being used to undermine our own national security, without unduly limiting trade and investment.

Tencent, it seems, thinks China will soon have its own tech at the same level of sophistication the US thinks threatens its security.

The Chinese web giant posted Q3 revenue of $21.5 billion, a ten percent year-on-year improvement. Operating profit fell six percent, but still came in at $6.8 billion.

The company highlighted improvement to its business services division, helped but its past decision to offload lossmaking IaaS clients from the Tencent cloud.

WeChat and QQ, Tencent’s social platforms, won 1.336 billion and 558 million monthly active users apiece, each up slightly year on year. Execs

CEO and chair “Pony” Ma Huateng said the results illustrated Tencent’s move to “high quality revenue growth” fuelled by its video and gaming services. ®

Source: The register

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